The Lesson: From the hearth and home, to farm and family, to business and betterment, human beings can pick up and accumulate concepts—sometimes very fundamental ones about what is most important—from other people, adopting them without scrutiny. Imposing these external ideals or concepts onto how we live our own lives, raise our kids, or manage our business, can often mean we are leading someone else’s life.

Redefining things like happiness, wealth, and success—as oriented through our own compass—is the ultimate way we can live our best life.

Notable Excerpt: “Scarcity economics teaches us that it’s a race—it’s a race to get there first, to have the highest score, to achieve the most, to learn the most first—and we have that same problem around how we treat ourselves and it’s why we have this overwork epidemic.”

The Speaker: Holding a Ph.D. in sustainable agriculture, and the record for the most swimming holes visited in a single day in her home of rural West Fulton, New York, Shannon Hayes is the owner of Sap Bush Hollow Farm and is the host of The Hearth of Sap Bush Hollow podcast, a weekly exploration of the adventures of keeping life, business, family, community, and fun in balance.

Books: Hayes is the author of eight books, most notably Radical Homemakers and the just-published Redefining Rich: Achieving True Wealth with Small Business, Side Hustles, and Smart Living, two cookbooks, and a how-to for running a regenerative agriculture outfit.

The Host: A practicing real-foods registered dietician and regenerative agriculturalist, Diana Rodgers is also the producer/director of the documentary Sacred Cow, the Case for Better Meat, which looks at how combining organic farming with cattle and animal agriculture creates a much more robust agro-ecology for nutrition, biodiversity, and the climate.

Podcast: Diana Rodgers and her colleagues host the Sustainable Dish Podcast. This weekly review features a wide variety of guests talking about regenerative agriculture, but also diet and nutrition, homesteading, nutritional science, and farm/food policy.

(LISTEN to the podcast episode below – Featured photos: Shannon Hayes and Diana Rodgers)

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